All these pictures were sent in the e mails exchanged. Also note these e mails are in order from when I sent to when I received which is why some overlap and catch themselves up in later e mails. It is kind of hard to see the bubbles dents from the pictures but they are there not horrible but there are a bunch from the damage in shipping. I also will be adding a picture of the box it was shipped in as well as a picture to show just how close the card was to all 4 walls which is why this all occurred. The card was braced in place by Styrofoam which was extremely snug which wouldn't allow for the item to move freely and the items  was also pretty much at the very bottom of the box with a very thin layer of padding below it. If u notice the damage of the shipping box and then look at the item I received u can clearly see the damage was caused by the blow the shipping box (just look at the damaged area on the item, then the damaged area of the box) took and since the packaging of the item was so bad the item inside was damaged. I actually was doing a friend a favor by purchasing this item and in trying to help a friend I end up with a huge headache and have to deal with someone who is supposed to be an online store owner yet has absolutely horrible customer service when this could have all been avoided with a proper  packing job and a fully insured item not less then half insured. If I were to sell an item for over 2000.00 I personally would be sure it was packaged with more care then this was.  Please bare with my horrible typing throughout these e mails. These are cut and pasted word for word nothing has been changed. I was pretty worked up and just typed like a madman and didn't proof read! 

The Pictures

this picture was not in any e mails but is what I was supposed to receive (I did borrow this pic so I believe need to give credit to Kevin, Curt and YO JOE , not sure whos they are so thanks to all of u. I think they are Kevin's.) This is the picture of the item before I purchased it. This was taken by another GI Joe collector to get verification that it was actually MOC : Mint On Card for other people who collect GI Joes to see that it was authentic.

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Me:

i just received the pdd destro today and the entire left side of the bubble is opened. u may have packed it tight but the box was too small for it. this is ridiculous man. thats 2200.00 and this item is useless. i just opened it this minute.

Me:

plus the top of the bubble is even loose as u can see the white all along the top of the card where the bubbles lifting

- sent pic with above e mail

- sent a blank e mail with another pic of the item

me:

here is the pictures of the item as received. i honestly am shocked u packaged it the way u did. i mean there was no room in the box for give. the wall of the box was right against the bottom of the card and the top of the card was right against the other wall. u should know to leave room for give on anything carded especially since u run an online store. i will be sending the 3 pictures in 3 e mails.

Guru:

What do you mean, you opened it?

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Don

-referring to the first e mail I sent (I meant opened the box it was shipped in)

Guru:

Its ok, calm down alittle, it wasnt me. I packed it perfectly. The bottom bubble was lifted a small amout but not that much before it left here, that was reason for low c8 rating on card. Be very careful with it, it is still the ONLY known pimp daddy destro mint on card KNOWN to exist, may be worth up to 4,000 - 5,000 still. Brains Toys has just the figure for 3,000 alone. I insured the pdd for 1000.00. I can put in a claim for you, send you all the info. There are also people out there looking to buy it, if you want to sell it for profit. They were all mad you got it.


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Don

Me:

i opened the box it was in just before i e mailed u. not the carded figure i;m not an idiot. the figure was ruined inside the box. unfortunatly you didn't put it in a big enough box and it seems to have taken a substantial shot and damaged the item so it is no longer moc. i sent u pictures. i hope u insured it for all 2265.00

me: 

there is no profit to be made in selling this figure it is worthless now. the box barely was the diamiter of the card and in turn it took a blow in shipping which destroyed the bubble off the card. pictures were sent. this is no small lifting it is almost 80% of the card with 50+% being heavily lifted. i knew about a small lift. why u insured a 2265.00 item for 1000.00 makes zero sense.

- in response to the it's ok calm down e mail

Me:

PDD is not worth 3000.00 loose. thats what brians toys thinks and thats why alot of thier crap doesn't sell. a PDD is worth 1000.00 maybe slightly more loose so its kinda a joke to use brians toys as a marker. i am not new to gi joe and i am freinds with a bunch of people who own a loose PDD as well as a guy who has sold maybe 3 of them in the past and i know the going rate. long gone are the days of a PDD being worth 2000.00 loose.

Guru:

There is not that much damage, take a picture full on. It is not worthless at all. It is the only one of those.

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Don

Guru:

I need to see that frontal shot of the figure, show me more pictures.

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Don

Me:

LOL u are joking right?i really hope u are joking it is worthless it is worth 1300.00 less then what i paid. u should have put it in a bigger box. i can see it wasn't sent damaged as it is because i can see where the box was crunched in during shipping but it is ur fault for using a box that barely fit the card. it's a joke for u to say its not that bad, i don't think u got the right pictures. it is extremely bad, nobody wants it half ripped open. thats not moc. that is loose. that says this is by no means a moc pdd somebody could easily slide one in there (even though u and me as well as countless others know it was once moc, still doesn't rule out others who don't thinking in that manner). not to mention that nobody cares to spend money on what WAS a moc pdd they wanted it when it was still carded to me this is not carded.

Me:

not a head on picture but close enough i know u really want to make sure my claim is legit. i took it on this angle so u can see the actuall PDD and the bubble lifting and such

-sent with a pic

Guru:

I looked at your picture again, the figure is alittle more off card, but it doesnt look nearly as damaged as you say, it is not crushed. The disription mention lifting, it is still in one piece and the face of the bubble is flawless. All I can do is put on a claim for the 1000. I think you underestimate what you have.

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Don

Me:

lol its on the way man. its funny u think i am trying to scam u. i sent u the pics before becaus ethat shows the damage. now u can see good old PDD in the new pic as well as the damage shown in the other pics! (some of it because the whole thing is worse then the pics show)

Guru:

It is still pimp daddy destro moc dude.

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Don

Guru:

I see more clearly that it is more damaged than I thought.

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Don

Me:

u don't seem to understand. what i purchased was a MOC PDD not a semi MOC PDD.
 
if i don't know what i have why are u running around the issue? i am sending more pics so u can see. the bubble was crushed in which caused all the damage. the inner shell is what had the most damage. but still the damage opened the bubble and did dent the bubble more. the bubbles not my concern as that would still be MOC but the bubble is over 50% lifted with more sections that mind as well be lifted concluding to almost 80% of the card. it is not MOC.

- concluded? what they hell was I thinking basically I meant it more or less totaling up to 80% of the bubble being lifted it was very loose almost all the way around but it still had some grip)

guru:

It was mint on card, and the the crushing on the inside was already there, it was in the discription by Kevin and on yojoe.com If the transit somehow damaged it and lifted more than the 30 percent that it was, then I will put in the insurance claim for 1000.00 thats really all I can do for you. It is still valuable and moc. Put it on Ebay and get 1800 or more, I can let the other buyers know about it. There is no other moc pimp daddy destro, none, your holding the closest thing to it, the only one.

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Don

Me:

here's more showing the sides. THIS IS NOT MOC U KEEP SAYING IT IS MOC IT IS NOT. it is now useless. and please explain to me why u only put 1000.00 insurance on an item u sold for 2265.00? it is for u to protect u and ur buyers so to under insure makes zero sense. and 1000.00 will not cut it.

- sent this with 5 pics

Guru:

It is mint on card. I sent the item, it was exactly as I represented it, and if  you feel it was damaged, you can go apply for the insurance, but know that they may not payout and if they do they will most likely take your figure. I will forward the information.

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Don

Me:

you seem to be heavy on this insurance situation. now u have to do all the insurance stuff. since u insured it it's u who makes the claim. u work that out on your end but in the mean time i want a refund of that 1000.00 now not later. i will cooperate with the Postal service in any info or pictures etc that they need. i will also help u out if needed as well with the claim. i do understand it was done in transit but that doesn't take away the fact it isn't what was ordered any longer. my step father works for the PO and i will make sure everything is going properly. if they need the item then u are responsible to pay me the rest of the cost of the item. i will put a hold payment on my credit card if i do not receive the payment of 1000.00 from u. and you don't agree to the refund of payment if the PO insurance needs to take the item. i will help with the insurance claim in any way. from my understanding if u try to claim that the item was damaged 1000.00 excatly they will probably look at u as a fraud. what u need to do is be honest on the price paid (easily shown with the online receipes) and the cost of the damage what in my eyes was half the cost of the item. which is 1125.00. now since it is only insured for 1000.00 i am sure they won't pay out 1125 but at least they will understand u are not looking to do something fraudulant. lmk what you feel about this. bill

Guru:

There will be no money changing hands at this point. You will have to submit any info directly with the post office, since it is you who claim the damage. I will forward information. code is VF 097 581 990 US

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Don

- sent with insurance receipt 

Me:

u are the one who insured the package u have to make the claim. if u will not give me at least the insurance money now i will be calling my credit card company shortly about the charge. i await ur next e mail then i go to them. thanks for zero help. u have been useless in this whole incident. u should have packed it better and insured it for the correct price. your gonna end up on the bad side of this for your lack of even trying to confront this problem. thanks or nothing!

Guru:

You need to go after the insurance because it is your name and address on the form. I am trying to help. I believe my side of this is clear. What do you suggest I do? If just giving you a thousand dollars is your idea of helping, I disagree.
I dont beleive I am libal or responsible for the damage. The US postal service is responsible. I will refute any claims or charge backs, and I am not entirely sure your being honest about this.

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Don

Me:

no i suggested u make the insurance claim for the 1000.00 which u have to do it is why they give u the ticket. then i expect u to take some kind of responsibilty towards the crappy packing job and lack of insuring the items 100% of cost by at least refunding the insurance cost while the claim is being done. as fro me not being 100% honest it would do me know good to open a moc PDD for fun and try to claim money on it. i said i will accept the cost of half (which u can claim with the insurance) and that would basically be fair as a loose one is 900-1400.00 depending n the buyer. now if thats not being fair then what is? u should have fully insured it to begin with. and in all honesty i purchased this for a friend and for me to open it just to be dishonest in whatever way u feel i am not being honest about it then would make zero sense as the persons intent was to keep it moc. u be sure to refute the credit card claims all u want. you are the initial cause of this to begin with. i will be sure everybody sees the size of the box and see it with the carded item in the box to see how tight it was. the actual shipping box is damaged on the bottom on the side the card was damaged on the item. and the simple fact u should have insured the thing 100% of cost. this would be no problem at all if u did so. i ask for the insurance money up front because what do i gain out of this? nothing i am out at least half the cost of the item and that was right out of the box u shipped it in. so why should i suffer for ur lack of knowledge in shipping a moc item? i mean u run an online store u should know never send a moc item in a box the size of the card.